Cruel But Fair

Show #63, Release date: 21. July, 2006

Originally show #25, Air date: 11. February, 2005 – Los Angeles Sports Arena, 26. April 1975.  A Harvested release and an EXCELLENT recording of a complete 1975 gig.  After You Gotta Be Crazy, Roger says “It was a cruel song… but fair… next tune we’re going to do for you is another new number, it’s called Shine On You Crazy Diamond.  It has something to do with Syd Barrett, who some of you might remember… and some of you probably won’t.”

I Start the podcast with “Marooned” from the Bootlegging The Bootleggers section of the new P*U*L*S*E DVD, recorded at Valle Hovin Stadion, Oslo, Norway, 29. August 1994

4 thoughts on “Cruel But Fair

  1. This is a BD installment which mentions Rick Wright, Stephane Grapelli, and/or the Pre’Immersion W-Y-W-H (?).

    I was just exploring on-line reviews of Wright’s two solo albums, with an eye towards making a possible purchase. ‘Wet Dreams’ seems more highly-rated than ‘Broken China’.

    AllMusic.com’s biography of Wright has me wondering about a few items:

    1) What was the nature of Waters’ conflict with Wright which led to Wright’s exit?
    2) Waters came to ‘steer’ the band [after Barrett] of course, but how was it possible legally, for Waters to have enough control that he could ‘dismiss’ a fellow founder of the group?
    3) If after two bandmates have a personal issue so serious that one ‘dismisses’ the other (presumably, with vehement emotions) why then ‘hire him back as a sideman’?
    4) Why also would Wright go on tour in support of album(s) he didn’t agree with?

    Just curious

    • This is the wish you were here pre’immersion podcast. Notice the title is missing. Haha.

      1) the gist… Roger Waters was getting increasingly unhappy with the lack of work Richard Wright was producing for the band. Tensions got to a point where something, according to Roger, had to be done.

      2) Being the creative force behind the band has a lot of clout. Roger told the band that if Rick didn’t leave he would use The Wall as a solo project! So Rick left as a full member but requested he stay on till the end of the Wall tour.

      3) Both Nick and David very much wanted Rick to still be in the band. They found out in 1987 that Rick cannot be reinstated per the contract. Eventually they were able to overcome that obstacle for 1994.

      4) Pride? Rick was the only one who actually made money off the Wall tour since he was a paid musician and not an actual member of the band.

  2. Question: did this phrase pop into Roger’s head (as he was on stage introducing the song to the audience), because he had previously heard it in an episode of Monty Python’s Flying Circus? It’s part of the script for Python Episode 1, Series 2; ‘Ethel the Frog” which contains a sketch covering the exploits of fictional brothers Doug and Dinsdale Piranha. This may be based on the legendary real-life Cray Brothers. Anyway “he’s a cruel man, but fair” is memorable a line from this skit.

    Just wondering.

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